Friday, 10 April 2015

Hydrogen – the Net-Negative Energy Option

Photo sourced [here]

 by Viv Forbes 

The same people who promoted intermittent energy (wind and solar) have trumped that with their latest green energy fad – hydrogen fuel.

Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe; it fuels the sun and is the third most common element on Earth. But it is so reactive that it is seldom found in its elemental state - it combines strongly with other elements such as oxygen to form water or with carbon to form methane. It is an essential component in all acids, alkalis, hydro-carbons and organic materials.


To extract hydrogen from natural compounds such as water, methane or coal requires very large inputs of energy. Most commonly hydrogen is produced from methane gas using heat and steam, or by electrolysis of water using large quantities of electricity.

Hydrogen can be used to power rockets, cars and engines of all types. However the energy used to produce the hydrogen can never be fully recovered from the energy in the hydrogen. It is thus NOT a source of energy – it is merely a storehouse for energy - a battery.

It is possible to produce hydrogen from water using electricity from nuclear or hydro-carbon fuels, or even intermittent green energy. The hydrogen gas could then be transported to cities as a clean energy source for cars, thus reducing pollution from petrol/diesel vehicles.

But hydrogen is a very dangerous gas. It has tiny lightweight molecules which have low energy density and are difficult to compress, contain and store. It also forms an explosive mixture with air. To provide a network of hydrogen car-fuelling stations, or to suggest hydrogen as a domestic gas, is inviting explosive disasters in the suburbs – (imagine the Health and Safety regulations!)

Inviting explosive disasters in the suburbs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MMB2VR0087w

Even the impractical electric cars have benefits compared to the hydrogen car. Electricity is safer and the supply network is easier and essentially in place. Moreover, electric cars do not reduce the oxygen content of city air - every tonne of hydrogen fuel consumes eight tonnes of oxygen to produce nine tonnes of water vapour. So instead of urban smog, we may get urban fog.

And to suggest that hydrogen can provide base-load power tops all green energy idiocy.

Hydrogen is a Net-Negative Energy Option.

Viv Forbes,
Rosewood    Qld   Australia
forbes@carbon-sense.com

Photo sourced Wikipedia


Sunday, 5 April 2015

Activism drives land clearing exaggeration



Mulga woodlands, photo sourced [here]

‘Drought drives mulga hunger’, an article published late February in the Queensland Country Life warned of extremist environmental groups using the increased tree clearing rates in the Statewide Landcover and Trees Study (SLATS) report due in August to pressure the Palaszczuk Government to introduce new restrictions on vegetation management. We didn’t have to wait that long as in late March a group of “concerned scientists” had the opinion article published, ‘Land clearing in Queensland triples after policy ping pong’ published on The Conversation web site,  that used the QCL article dishonestly as they omitted the reasons given for the increased rates.
To wax lyrically about Queensland’s woodland and forests being lost is deceptive when there is no breakdown yet available between remnant and non-remnant vegetation.


No mention was made of the largest contributor because of drought, with 80% of Qld drought declared, the feeding of the regenerating acacia, mulga, as invaluable fodder to livestock.

The coal seam gas industry has made a contribution with the construction of three export pipelines that take the gas to the port of Gladstone, 2 of which are around the 540 km’s in length and extensive infrastructure including the clearing for gas wells, in field pipelines, very large water storages, compressor stations and water treatment plants. Other contributing factors include mine sites and urban encroachment. This did not fit the environmental paradigm as the article falsely claimed that the Vegetation Management Act had been rapidly watered down by the Newman government bringing back broadacre land clearing for agriculture.

To the contrary the Newman government amendments were modest including the restoration of basic tenets of our legal system, civil rights that the wider community take for granted but were denied to landowners under the Vegetation management Act.  The clearing of remnant vegetation remains extremely restricted. The “concerned scientists” berate the removal of high value regrowth from the Act which is a nonsense invented by environmentalists and ignores that their high value regrowth is encroaching on high value pastures.  In the research report, ‘Recent reversal in loss of global terrestrial biomass’, published on March 30 2015, vegetation in Australia has actually increased with the encroachment of trees into grassland a key factor. The report states:
“We also found unexpectedly large vegetation increases in savannas and shrublands of Australia, Africa, and South America. Previous analyses have focused on closed forests and did not measure this increase.
On average, Australia is “greener” today than it was two decades ago. This is despite ongoing land clearing, urbanisation and the recent droughts in some parts of the country”
Mean annual change in vegetation biomass between 1993 and 2012. Blue represents an increase; red a decrease.
Image modified from Liu et al., 2015.                          image sourced [here]


The “concerned scientists” article, ‘Land clearing in Queensland triples after policy ping pong’, is alarmist and attempts to make very broad associations to pull at the heart strings. For example:
“There are 778 species listed as “Vulnerable” or “Endangered” in Queensland. Loss of habitat is a major threat to most of them. In addition, 45% of Queensland’s ecosystems are threatened because of land clearing”

The opinion article fails to give any data at all that any clearing has been allowed where there is endangered fauna and flora.  It also pulls out a favourite trump card of the environmentalist of a calamity about to fall upon cute and cuddly, in this case the koala, with no substantiated specific data in direct correlation to the projected increase in SLATS figures.

 The core proposition by the “concerned scientists” and where they are seeking political action is:
“But in 2012, a newly elected Liberal-National government rapidly set about watering down many aspects of environmental legislation. The Vegetation Management Framework Amendment Act 2013 brought back broadscale land clearing for agriculture, and the protections for high-value regrowth on freehold and indigenous land were removed.”

Again this can clearly be demonstrated as an exaggeration. The Newman government elected in early 2012 did not bring its first amendment to the Vegetation management Act until May 2013. Hardly rapidly! Far from a complete “watering down” of the Act, the amendments in May and December 2013 were in the scale of things modest and most certainly necessary.  Amongst the amendments was the restoration of civil rights denied to landowners under the Vegetation management Act and improvements were made to how the Act worked such as the application for fodder harvesting of mulga which retained a code of how drought feeding to staving livestock was to be conducted. Also the introduction of guidelines for vegetation thinning to counter the environmental and production problem of thickening as authenticated by a lifetimes work by internationally renowned woodland scientist Dr Bill Burrows. The term high value regrowth was always without foundation and was rightly removed. This is after all land that had been cleared and is being maintained for agricultural production.

The article recites the so-called “litany” of perceived problems of land clearing as if they are automatic in every instance and without background which points out instances where improved grass cover from clearing actually decreases erosion and improves water quality but that does not fit within the environmental paradigm. There is not much science to this article but much environmental activism.

Most agricultural land clearing is undertaken on land that had been cleared once before. The fact is that most agricultural production essential to feed our population by necessity occurs off land that is thinned of its vegetation or a large percentage cleared.  Land has been set aside for different purposes and its time environmentalists reserve full conservation management to National Parks only and don’t transfer these expectations to agricultural production systems.
Editorial 26th March 2015 Queensland Country Life














Friday, 3 April 2015

Grassfed Cattle Levies Inquiry-Where to Now

"Should the following recommendations be rejected or even watered down, the committee fears that this existing goodwill, and with it efforts to provide a viable structure for producers, will rapidly diminish." 1 ( my emphasis-Report of Senate Inquiry into grassfed levies)

Joanne Rea


Grassfed Cattle Levies Inquiry-Where to Now
by Joanne Rea
 
The Senate Inquiry into grassfed levies was completed and reported on by early September 2014. So far only two of seven recommendations have been discussed and an outcome presented to the Minister. All seven recommendations can be found here.

Australian Meat Producers Group and Concerned Cattle Producers (AMPG/CCP) and Australian Beef Association (ABA) have publicly thrown their support behind all seven recommendations. Our lead cattle production policy body, CCA, have not made any public commitments either in favour of or rejecting recommendations three to seven
There are claims that proponents of change who are in favour of the seven Senate recommendations are just the “rant” of a vocal minority.


The Senate submissions and hearings themselves give the lie to these claims. The list of genuine deficiencies in our current red meat industry structures, as made by practising grassfed cattle producers was eerily similar across the country. This was backed up by public hearings in all states.
Almost 200 people or organisations made submissions with most pointing out intransigent problems with the current system. Many who were and still are in deep drought or debt were under too much pressure to submit and were relying on others to make a reasonable case.
I really don't know what “majority” the detractors think they are speaking on behalf of but to me it is clear that the “majority” that I see has made their wish for change loud and clear. The Senators thought so too.

7.33 The committee notes that the current levy system was put in place at a time when the extent of vertical integration could not have been foreseen. The prevailing perception is that the current structure has enabled processors to gain disproportionate influence over the producer levy system, at the expense of grass-fed producers who pay the greatest proportion of the levy. Indeed, this matter, along with concerns regarding the 'undemocratic' nature of the MLA voting system, has contributed to the loss of trust in MLA expressed by many submitters. 2


 
Recommendation number seven states that,
The committee recommends that the Department of Agriculture, in consultation with the cattle industry, conduct an analysis of the benefits, costs and consequences of introducing legislation akin to the Packers and Stockyards Act 1921 and Livestock Mandatory Price Reporting Act 1999.

Already there have been some rumblings that the US Acts are huge and expensive and cost the processing industry billions of dollars to comply with. It would be a great shame if the process were dismissed as a result without proper discussion of the likely benefits.

The fact is that there are many elements to the US system and its administration that we will not need to start from scratch with but will be able to be accommodated in existing structures.
Modern computer technology also means that data can be collected, transmitted and analysed relatively easily.

Peter Weeks in the MLA submission claims that they achieve the aims of required transparency by just ringing the processors and asking about their sales information, which they give voluntarily, and it only costs about $2,000,000. (emphasis added).

GIPSA, the body in the US which oversees the Stockyards and Packers Act spends considerable time prosecuting, settling and fining companies who do not pay for livestock within the prescribed period of three days. Payment protection is a very large part of their mandate. Although there are always a few people who want payment within a short period to be prescribed in Australia, many of us realise that this would put undue financial pressure on some small processors and we roll with the punches as long as we are ultimately paid.

As well as payment protection the agency is there  ''to assure fair competition and fair trade practices, to safeguard farmers and ranchers...to protect consumers...and to protect members of the livestock, meat, and poultry industries from unfair, deceptive, unjustly discriminatory and monopolistic practices...'' 3

We already have a body in the ACCC which is supposed to oversee these sorts of problems. They are not very active in rural industry until recently and they do not appear to have a great deal of expertise in or understanding of rural industry or a price taking market. A dedicated rural desk backed by industry specific legislation should see a more knowledgeable approach.

GIPSA also monitors the accuracy of scales and weighing of livestock. We already have such a body in Ausmeat. The only question is whether we want to give it more enforcement power and how much.
GIPSA also reviews stockyard services, handling practices and facilities. In Australia we have a plethora of codes and regulation which covers all of that.
Once the meat is stripped from the bone it may transpire that all we need is a bit of tightening of existing laws and very few new ones but they need an Act of there own to be coherent and have the appropriate monitoring in place..
We need to start informing the Minister for Agriculture what we require from an Australian version of the Stockyards and Packers Act which should be unique and called something else, bearing in mind that we do not want or need a clone of the US Act but a clean sheet of paper where we list the similar functions that we require and how we want them implemented.

GIPSA's Mission is unequivocally "To protect fair trade Practices, financial integrity, and competitive markets for livestock, meat, and poultry."

It is charged with:-

  • Conducting major investigations involving fraud, unfair competition, and deceptive practices.
  • Ensuring accurate scales and accurate weighing of livestock, meat, and poultry.
  • Monitoring market performance.
  • Carrying out the payment and statutory trust provisions of the Poultry Producers Financial Protection Act of 1987. Continuing certification of the "clear title" systems
  • Reviewing stockyard services, handling practices, and facilities.
We have no such body in Australia which is dedicated to producers with MLA's Meat industry Strategic Plan, where it stops being a social document, and occasionally poses as a business document, talking about “supply chain profitability” rather than producer profitability.

The Mandatory Price Reporting Act requires:-
 that the information, including price and volume information, be provided in a format that can be readily understood by producers; improves the price and supply reporting services of the Department of Agriculture; and encourages competition in the marketplace for livestock and livestock products.

In the latest round of amendments congress ordered the USDA to set up an interactive website which covered prices and numbers for every category of cattle, boxed beef and by-products as well as other livestock. A sample of the website can be accessed here and here. A great deal of very up to date information can be sourced from these reports. Processors are required to submit sales once or twice a day. Do we want this in an Australian version of the Packers and Stockyards Act.

One of the problems with the present market intelligence system as administered by MLA is that the information available and its methods of presentation have barely changed in a decade and a half. As time has moved on and the industry has become more vertically integrated those left in the dark have been the specialist cattle producers.

Do we need to do better than this? The Senators have offered the opportunity. Are we going to throw it away?
 

2 .Ibid. ch.7 p84

Saturday, 28 February 2015

Strength in Diversity

Speech at the Unity Action Symposium, Chinchilla, February 28 2015 by PRA chairman Dale Stiller


The topic of this talk is ‘Strength in Diversity’ which is a look at the core principles common to the different organisations or groups, how an united approach of diverse groups  can help present a strong image and effect change  against how the coal seam gas industry is currently allowed to operate.

Let us start with the most important point, something I want you to keep in mind as this talk progresses. No matter what organisation you have thrown your hat in with it is not the organisation that is most important but the people it helps to support.

As soon as a society allows a minority or even an individual to be collateral damage for the likes of an economic benefit or even what appears to be a worthy cause then it is operating on an ethically deficient basis.

The coal seam gas industry has been given priority for almost unrestricted development at considerable haste at the cost of landowners and the productivity of agricultural lands.[1] Some mining companies are also not operating as good corporate citizens.  Also needed for these new resource projects is the necessary infrastructure and the government corporation Powerlink[2] delivering high voltage transmission lines was the worst of all to deal with

Each organisation has found it difficult to find acceptable outcomes for individuals who at no fault of their own are victims of circumstances supported by a bloody minded attitude of governments who are failing to govern for all.

A simple workable low cost solution is available to solve Bill & Lyn Dahlheimer’s[3] understandable desire to retire before they are frail & elderly but it has been ignored. Kylie Haeusler is discarded as collateral damage[4] fallen between the legislative cracks; the Chinchilla Jenkyn[5] & Nothdurft[6] families and others have an amenity of life that poor you wouldn’t wish it on your worst enemy. A Georgetown cattleman[7] had a fence erected across his access road by a small gold mining outfit in October 2013. It is still there and causing massive financial difficulties. A Central Queensland woman is offered compensation only a sixth of the properties true worth by a new coal mine. Both of these last two cases were forced to go to court at huge cost to the landowner.

People have been placed in a situation of disadvantage.[8] The system is not only failing, it has been designed to work against landowners. I talk to many people like this and as the chair of an organisation set up to help people I often feel inadequate. The best thing I can and anyone can to help someone else is to listen and to stand by them offering moral support as together you seek a solution .

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As individuals we are often inadequate in one aspect or the other. We each have some skills and as we come together in groups and organisations we complement each other’s skills

Even in the different groups we have our own strengths & weaknesses. For part of this presentation I will talk about some of the recent history of PRA not with the aim of promotion for what I will say will include weaknesses, but with the aim of illustration to support the topic of this presentation, ‘Strength in Diversity’.

Today is called the Unity Action Symposium, with the call to Unite for the future. This could be seen as a call to unite into one single super group. After all the pooling of a greater number of people will draw together a greater amount of talent and isn’t it the case that politics is a numbers game and politicians are always looking at numbers of voters who may vote for or against them?

I will return and give you my view on this later.

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Before I get too far I must inform you that you have been warned that you should not listen to me as these words by a prominent figure in December 2010 indicate:

“The PRA example is exactly what we must avoid in addressing the CSG issues.”[9]

I’m sure this audience will take seriously the words of the now former Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development, Infrastructure and Planning, Jeff Seeney.


This attack came completely out of the blue in an opinion piece published in the Queensland Country Life in December 2010. Remember that the LNP were in opposition at the time, not gaining office until early 2012. PRA had not addressed any comment to the opposition, in fact PRA at far as I know had no recent contact all with Mr Seeney. PRA had been with increasing persistency bringing to the then governments attention and to the general public what landowners were being subjected to in what appeared to be a blind rush to roll out this new industry, Coal Seam Gas. People were being disadvantaged.
Mr Seeney wrote:
“it is clearly absurd to suggest a reality check of the CSG industry's operation over the past 10 years is an appalling idea”
And
“In regard to the CSG issues we can build a creditable case on demonstratable facts and verifiable mainstream science that will withstand any reality check” 

The then PRA chairman, Ron Bahnisch, asked for and was granted a right of reply and so in the next week’s publication Ron wrote with these words directed at Mr Seeney:[10]

“Let’s see him “build a credible case on demonstrable facts and verifiable main stream science that will withstand any reality check” in the CSG mining industry.

Labor minister Robertson is much closer to the unfortunate reality by claiming to proceed with the oxymoronic “adaptive precautionary principle”.

There lies the nub and the core of the dilemma. Neither position is obtainable or sustainable.”

Ron later in his opinion article wrote about CSG:

“The risks of coal seam gas extraction are real, otherwise there would be no need for the complex regulatory controls that have been imposed.

The major problem is that if damage occurs, it will be almost impossible to remedy, and that remedy will depend on the government of the day - no matter what colour” 
These two opinion articles and the comments published at the Rural Press farmonline web site together make for an interesting case study from which many points could be extracted for example Ron writes about the effectiveness of small interest groups to bring about government legislative change.

Mr Seeney correctly stated that

“PRA was formed in response to the shameful injustices of the Vegetation Management Act and the new organisation received a lot of early support from landholders.”

By his opinion article it appeared that he did not want PRA to bring its focus on the shameful injustices being perpetrated upon landholders, at the time in 2010 the Bligh Labor government and what was to come in 2012 the following Newman LNP government, by allowing the unrestricted access to the resource to multinational coal seam gas companies.

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I have shown an unflattering light on Mr Seeney of the LNP in this talk but I will now also give condemnation to the contempt shown to landowners and primary producers by the Beattie/ Bligh Labor governments over a 20 year period. Bear with me as I am laying this groundwork to bring across later in this talk the points that are directed to the title, “Strength in Diversity’. Understanding this 20 year period of recent Queensland political history is important to understanding the response to the coal seam gas industry.

From this time comes the at times awkward tension that exists between some of groups who now find themselves on parallel paths advocating against CSG injustice. [11]

It was in this time that the highly commendable work of past departments of agriculture was gutted, agency staff either reemployed or made redundant and extension work largely abandoned. It may be in the best intentions that Agforce the agricultural sector’s peak body took on government contracts to disseminate information. The government got what it wanted the money funded the facilitation of policy unpopular with farmers; it was a lot cheaper than properly funding the department and they got a tamer peak body. It may be for the best of intentions but in accepting a funding stream beyond anything dream possible before, it became hard to yell too hard when latched onto the teat. This became so evident in the wake of the Newman government passing the appalling Mineral & Energy Resources (Common Provisions) Act that in an unprecedented move the Queensland Country Life editorial questioned the “deafening silence”[12] on the part of Agforce. 

I sincerely hope that such silence is a thing of the past.

It was from this time that trust was destroyed between the agricultural sector and government and the cooperation & innovation between farmers and the agriculture department was lost to a department of Natural Resources and mines later to become the super department of DERM where staff were directed to dictate policy, coerce and prosecute.[13]

People not aware of this past have speculated to why Queensland farmers capitulated in the face of the CSG onslaught. Amongst other reasons it is because they felt abandoned by anyone in government to look after their interests and the peak body was providing “education” to how to adapt to the living with the CSG machine.  Most of the landowners who signed contracts with a CSG company did not do so because they were happy with the industry as the likes of APPEA falsely propagate but because of seeing no other possibility than to get the best deal that they could which was often inadequate.
What was motivating Mr Seeney from the opposition benches in December 2010 to write this opinion article to which online commenters were “mystified”, “puzzled” and asked “what point are you making”.  The future revealed a Newman LNP government making legislative change at the same break neck speed that the Bligh Labor government set loose the CSG monster. All of the various groups trying to ensure a better future for landowners disadvantaged by CSG were buried in submission writing. Not only were resource base legislation introduced or amended but also Planning Acts and also the Water Act blatantly moulded to best suit the unrestricted progress of resource projects.


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I am keen to obtain & read a book reviewed in July 2013 by an online friend, retired newspaper editor, John Mikkelsen.  The book review is called ‘Mining captures politics’[14] and John writes:

“GOVERNMENTS change but the politics surrounding mining and resource developments don’t, according to the author of a controversial new book about to be launched in Gladstone. ‘Road to Exploitation’ subtitled ‘Political Capture by Mining in Queensland’ follows years of pains-taking research.

“The book authenticates not only landholders’ concerns about coal and CSG's unacceptable impacts upon their strategic cropping land and aquifers, but also concerns about damage to Gladstone Harbour's ecology through examples of sweetheart deals entered into by Cabinet that bound the government's regulatory and administrative agencies to policies of minimum compliance, lack of regulatory enforcement, false benchmarking of the science and eventually, abandonment of co-existence with behind the scenes resignation of unavoidable impacts.

“The book's contents and documentation justify the title and demonstrate this principle: Capture executive government in Queensland and the regulatory and administrative processes are captured as well”.”

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It was in 2010 that Basin Sustainability Alliance[15] was formed and so was Lock the Gate; so why weren’t these two organisations given the blow torch as well.

The following is a series of assumptions on my part but I am assuming that BSA may not have come onto Mr Seeney’s radar as yet, which may have been a mistake as BSA was to lay a good foundation in its first year under its ‘Not at any cost’ motto.  More recently under David Hamilton’s leadership BSA was to refine the technique of polite but firm correspondence with political leaders; patient probing investigation accumulating knowledge and maintaining a highly credible appearance. In all of these things BSA does better than any other landowner advocate group that focuses on CSG.

I’m assuming that it may have been thought that any influence of the newly fledged Lock the Gate could be negated because of one of its founding members, Drew Hutton[16], who had a high profile as a former leader of the Queensland Greens party and association with various environmental causes. But Drew had a political savvy lacking in any rural based advocacy group leadership and importantly metropolitan media contacts. To get a rural based story into the metropolitan media was and remains difficult. Lock to the Gate is a simple message to sell that has appeal to an urban audience and a lot more people got to know about CSG, the potential impacts and the disadvantage placed upon landowners.
PRA came under attack in December 2010 because it could not be pigeon holed as an environmental group and also it had a very successful track record of legal action against DERM with 12 wins out of 13 court cases. To be clear PRA isn’t anti- environment rather pro supporting disadvantaged landowners. Repeating what I said earlier; as soon as a society allows a minority or even an individual to be collateral damage for the likes of an economic benefit or even what appears to be a worthy cause then it is operating on ethically deficient basis.  PRA advocated on behalf of people using the two pillars of science and specialist legal opinion. PRA also has a maxim that if the government or the majority of the population wanted something that caused disadvantage to landowners - then pay for it.

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Over the last 12 months there been a concerted effort to polarise the debate about coal seam gas. Directed largely at the urban population, resource advocacy groups APPEA & Queensland Resources Council together with Newman government ministers have taken pains to promote the concept that only radical greenies were against coal seam gas. Landowners especially those disadvantaged were carefully not mentioned. Remember the defence of the indefensible M&ER Common Provisions Act in September last year with government ministers repeating that “only radical greenies” had a problem with the new Act.[17]

Andrew Cripps the Minister for Natural Resource & Mines sounded more and more ludicrous as time went on especially this exchange recorded for prosperity in Hansard:[18]

“Mr Cripps: Some of the objections put forward by the member for South Brisbane, the member for Bundamba and repeated by the member for Stafford and some members of the crossbench I am really frustrated with because they consistently repeated a falsehood that has been perpetuated, as I said on a number of occasions during my second reading contribution, by green activist groups and by certain legal firms and they are just as much to blame for perpetuating the myth.

Ms Trad: So AgForce is to blame for perpetuating a myth?

Mr CRIPPS: They are perpetuating a myth. I am happy to go on record that it is not just AgForce, but Cotton Australia and the Queensland Farmers Federation are perpetuating a myth.

Ms Trad: Well done, Minister. Congratulations. “

 Earlier when the Common Provisions bill was before the Parliamentary Committee there was only one hearing date appearing on the committee’s web page and no landowner or rural advocacy groups had been invited; however the Environmental Defenders Office had been. Agforce, Basin Sustainability Alliance, Cotton Australia, Shine Lawyers, EDO Qld and Qld Farmers Federation met prior to the hearing and produced an 8 point communique[19] for EDO to table at the hearing on behalf of all these organisations.

This united approach resulted in 3 more hearing being scheduled and also a very interesting response from Michael Roache of QRC who sent emails to each rural advocacy group who took part. By kind permission of David Hamilton to whom it was sent and also the current BSA president Lyn Nicholson I can reveal that Roache appeared to be quite worried by this joint approach and stated a preference of deal with each organisation individually. Micheal Roache wrote in part:
“it was hard not to feel an element of ambush in EDO tabling such a "consensus document".  I would have hoped that each of you would have felt comfortable approaching QRC with any concerns and would urge you to do so in the future.”
It’s an astonishing plead to return to the good old days of resource companies dividing and conquering. This is the case where the divide or diversity of advocacy organisations coming together on core principles proved to be powerful.

Last month a researcher from the Melbourne University, Steven Burge, was intervening landowners and others in the Surat basin about CSG. I asked for Stevens’s permission to use this quote of his in this talk as it shows the advantage of having a diverse range of voices speaking out about CSG.

“The reason that first gave me a very good indication that something was amiss with the development of the CSG industry was that it wasn’t just one section being vocal about it. If it was only groups who have in the past championed environmental causes being active it could be taken as nothing out of the ordinary. But there was a whole spectrum of different community sectors speaking out, some of which are normally seen as quite conservative and reluctant activists.”

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Small local community groups are important that brings together the community of local landowners for moral support. Some groups even demand that resource or infrastructure project proponents negotiate with the group as a whole in the initial stages so that a base standard is met and that impacts to the community as a whole are minimised. This is a powerful tool, one the resource companies do not like, who much prefer the age old tactic of divide and conquer. Our hosts today, the Hopeland Community group[20] has taken it a step further to stage this symposium to disseminate information to the wider community.  Jenny York from the Woodduck group[21] [22]spoke earlier, there are Cameby Hall group people here today and there are examples further afield.

The greatest role for a small community group is to offer local moral support and associate with a larger organisation for resourcing and advocacy to government.
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People are not all the same and different people group together because of common interests and values. Some of these values to the peripheral of core principles in objection to current CSG activity don’t make it possible for the formation of a super organisation. That is not a weakness, it is just life. Weakness would be the denial of the obvious. We need to focus on what we agree on while recognising the important differences.






We can be united in a core belief and real strength comes from recognising other differences with honesty, respect and civility.

Finally I will repeat my first and most important point. No matter what organisation you have thrown your hat in with it is not the organisation that is most important but the people it helps to support.
Thank you



[20] http://www.molliwell.com.au/LandholdersASCERT™/HCSG.aspx